Tom Sachs: 'If you make shitty things I'm coming after you'

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Tom Sachs: 'If you make shitty things I'm coming after you'
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The artist tells Hans Ulrich Obrist about the importance of zines, Covid sucking the life out of the streets of NYC and how he starts his day.

, it can connect you with what is really going on in the city. To travel by plane is sin. By foot, virtue.

I think of those Mondrians as sculptures. They’re like sculptures of Mondrian paintings. I’ve always done both painting and sculpture, because, as Germano Celant said, “It’s an expression of my insecurity, I want to show that I want to do everything.” Last fall I did a show at Acquavella Galleries of just paintings, I called it Handmade Paintings. I just tried it as an experiment.

So I started trying to work out a form that would be complementary to the sculpture. That’s what Brancusi did, he made the base as important as the sculpture itself, he made it another space to explore texture and colour and form, and some of the shapes of the plinths are taken directly from Brancusi, but others from industrial shapes. Contrast brings attention to the form.

One thing I wanted to talk about too was the links to brands in your sculptures. I was curious about this question of appro-priation, and what is a source and what is a copy. And what is fascinating in your work is that the process also gets inverted, and that you work with brands to reach millions of people who otherwise would not see your exhibitions. And we do need to find new forms of collation and dissemination for art.

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