When Margaret Sullivan left The Washington Post, she planned to go “Full-Bore Thoreau”—but she still had something to say. Now, with her new podcast ‘American Crisis,’ she hopes to address “whether journalism, at its best, can help save democracy.”
Probably the biggest one is what people think about the election of 2020. I mean, there are lots of people who think that PresidentSometimes I think it’s so big and so uncomfortable that we don’t really want to face it head-on as a country. So you’re exploring whether journalism can save democracy—do you have an answer yet?
Well, I hope that the podcast will broach that. But my working theory is that it can help to save democracy, that it’s a necessary component. It can’t do the work all by itself. It is a part of the system that can support democracy. And how does that work? What are the things that weaken its ability to do that? And what are the things that strengthen its ability to do that? One of the things that worries me the most is the demise of local newspapers or the weakening of local newspapers.
One of the things that came out of my teaching at Duke [was], I taught this course called News as a Moral Battleground. At the beginning of the class, I asked all these undergraduates, “What are your news sources?” Many of them saidAnd I was like, well, that’s interesting.
It will have media criticism as a component, because there’s a lot that’s happening in media. Whether it’s the extremeness of right-wing media, or whether it’s the performative neutrality of mainstream media, there’s a lot that’s not working very well. So I think I’ll certainly get into that. Molly [Jong-Fast] put her finger on one aspect of it, which is the idea that when the right so effectively criticizes mainstream journalists by claiming that they’re spouting DNC talking points, or that they’re lefties—everybody wants to be seen as fair, so people move over to the right. “Well, I’ll just move over this way so that I won’t get criticized.” But it’s never enough. And it never matters because that’s not the point of the claims—to make the coverage more fair.
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