Full transcript of 'Face the Nation,' July 14, 2024

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Full transcript of 'Face the Nation,' July 14, 2024
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On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, Sen. Tom Cotton and Rep. Jason Crow join Margaret Brennan.

On this 'Face the Nation' broadcast, moderated by Margaret Brennan: CBS News congressional correspondent Scott MacFarlaneCBS News homeland security reporter Nicole SgangaEd O'Keefe, CBS News senior White House and political correspondent, and Robert Costa, CBS News chief election and campaign correspondentSen. Tom Cotton, Republican of ArkansasRep. Jason Crow, Democrat of ColoardoSam Vinograd, CBS News national security contributor and former Homeland Security official, and A.T.

Law enforcement has identified the shooter as 20-year- old Thomas Matthew Crooks of nearby Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, seen here accepting his high school diploma in 2022. One attendee told the BBC that he'd seen the man and notified law enforcement on the scene prior to the shooting. MAN #2: We noticed a guy crawling, army – you know, bear-crawling up the roof of the building beside us, 50 – 50 feet away from us. So we're standing there. And, you know, we're pointing.

Nicole, you have been reporting that this was an AR-15 or AR-15-style weapon used by the shooter. What do we know about how he obtained it? Do we have any detail from the ATF at this point? It is.Now, the Trump campaign is on edge. They're asking their employees to be careful, not to necessarily go to some of the Trump campaign offices. They're concerned about the security, as Ed said, and they're looking at the security perimeter in Milwaukee. But, at the same time, when it comes to the logistics politically of the Republican National Convention, it is all things go at this moment.

… horror among both friends and even the political adversaries of former President Donald Trump, to have this outburst of violence in the United States. At the same time, you are seeing political leadership mostly across the board, as you say, urge temperatures to be lowered, to talk about civility, to talk about how the other side may be wrong on an issue, but are still human beings. And so you are seeing some people try to step up. But let's also be candid. Tensions are very high.

And when you said suspension, you were just talking about the pulling of ads. Are you indicating that Joe Biden is changing other plans for the week ahead? ED O'KEEFE: Not – at this point, Margaret, we don't know.The other thing, the other element of all this, of course, is his own political future.

Go ahead. We just have to wrap. Quickly. Well, it is a difficult day for Americans, Margaret. I want to join President Trump in express – expressing my gratitude for the Secret Service agents and the law enforcement officers who acted so quickly, skillfully, and bravely to protect him and the supporters at the rally, and express my condolences to the family of the man who was killed by the shooter and those who are still in critical condition today. I had a chance to speak with President Trump this morning. He's doing well.

Well, as President Trump said, I think it's important that we not jump to any conclusions about the shooter. I have seen the reports that he's a registered Republican and that he's given to left-wing causes. I think we need to let investigators fully develop this situation and get all the facts before we jump to any conclusions.

Steve Scalise, congressman from Louisiana, was gravely injured.Obviously, the Capitol Police did a great job in that moment. They do a great job trying to protect us, not only in the Capitol, but make sure we're aware of threats. The president is different from 535 legislators. That's why he has the Secret Service and full-time details. That's why campaigns like President Trump's have it. But I think the Capitol Police do a great job in trying to protect all legislators.

Well, Margaret, I'm not privy to the details about the protection that the Secret Service provides to Donald Trump. That's something that the campaign and the Secret Service would keep very closely held. Donald Trump, again, expressed his gratitude for the Secret Service agents who protected him, along with all the other law enforcement officers who secured the scene and neutralized the shooter promptly.

I – Margaret, I can't say that's been confirmed to me by a government authority. And we're joined now by Democratic Colorado Congressman Jason Crow. It's good to have you here in person. Mm-hmm. Well, I want to talk to you more about that, and it's an important message. We're going to do it on the other side of this break, though. We will be right back.

Toughest districts, you're saying, because re-election campaign prospects are getting harder for Democrats in the last few weeks in the wake of that debate performance by Joe Biden. Our reporting has been that there were other Democrats on that call who told the president point-blank that he would lose key battleground states. What was your message to the president?

But - but the president was not open to the message you were providing to him? He's made his opinion very clear that he's not going anywhere. I want to ask you about rhetoric. At a distance, everyone has gotten very heated, obviously, in the past 24 hours, but I'm talking leading up to it. Democrats have referred to Donald Trump as a sociopath, as narcissist, who have been in - and this isn't just heated campaign rhetoric. Direct, verbal criticisms in very heated terms. Do you think, at this moment, all of that should stop?

I think a lot of Americans would agree with that sentiment. I know tomorrow House members like yourself will receive a security briefing. There has already been a history of threats against lawmakers. I wonder how safe you feel just showing up for work or carrying out your work as a lawmaker? Well, obviously, the number one problem, the most glaring question to be asked is, how did this individual make it to the roof of that building with a long rifle, an AR-15 type rifle, apparently? The Secret Service plan has three concentric rings of security, an inner perimeter, a middle and an outer. And the counter sniper team is responsible for that outer perimeter, up to a thousand yards.

Well, yes. Right now the investigation, frankly, is in its very nascent stages. Our sources are telling us at this time that this individual was not known to law enforcement. We do know what his name is. We know his general biographic information. But at this point, authorities have indicated there's no nexus to terrorism and he had no law enforcement background.

Well, they're trying to stay on heightened alert as well. They're going to look at what they need to do to improve. Obviously, we've heard a lot about the enhancements that are already underway, both for the Republican convention, as well as the Democratic convention. So, they will take an inward look, try to figure out really quickly what they can do better. Obviously, the FBI is the lead agency with this particular incident and they will do a thorough investigation.

In terms of their assets? Well, intelligence and law enforcement is concerned about the role the conspiracy theories could play in inciting further violence. At the same time, I will say, I worked hand in hand with the Secret Service. They are ideologically agnostic. The focus here should be on investigating whether there were intelligence failures that led the Secret Service to miss a threat and/or operational failures that did not allow the Secret Service to establish a perimeter that helped secure the protectee.

We're joined now by CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett, who is in Milwaukee this morning. And also here in Washington, CBS News cyber security expert Chris Krebs. Good to have you both with us. Major, tell me what you are seeing on the ground in Milwaukee this morning. And who he may or may not have been in contact with. Can you explain to us what - what they are looking for there and what you are seeing in terms of the risk of radicalization online?

We heard earlier this week from the director of national intelligence some detailed declassification of foreign actors who are trying to influence and manipulate our election through misinformation. Do we know at this time the degree to which that is playing into this moment? Yes. And that they have done so recently, Iranian actors, to exacerbate tensions over the Israel-Gaza conflict.

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