Ed Sheeran Says Being Friends With Taylor Swift Is Like 'Therapy'

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Ed Sheeran Says Being Friends With Taylor Swift Is Like 'Therapy'
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'I have long, long, long conversations with Taylor about stuff just because I feel like she's one of the only people that actually truly understands where I'm at,' Ed Sheeran explained.

on Thursday, with a jury ruling that he did not copy Marvin Gaye's 1973 hit,"Let's Get It On," on his 2014 song,"Thinking Out Loud." Sheeran's chat with Lowe came ahead of the verdict, but the singer reflected on the case all the same.

"I think artists, we're expected to [have] this sheen and this perfect thing and never have struggle," Sheeran added."'Why would you ever have struggles? You are not a human being.' It's a thing that's expected, and it's a thing that I've played into over the last 13 years of my career, of just being like, keep calm and shut up, and just get on stage, sing the songs.

"I would just never do it. I'd just never do it. I feel like if people felt that they had would come to me... and I've cleared songs for people that have come," he said."... The thing with these cases, it's not usually songwriters that are suing songwriters... I feel like in the songwriting community, everyone sort of knows that there's four chords primarily that are used and there's eight notes. We work with what we've got, with doing that.

While Sheeran said he's"always had ups and downs and struggles," his latest album is the first time he's publicly sharing as much.

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