From the Archives: An interview with anthropologist Christen A. Smith provides insights into resisting police violence and creating safe societies for people of African descent.
The first time I spent Carnival in Bahia it clicked. I was living there and witnessed the transition from pre- to post-Carnival. In the weeks leading up to Carnival, the city government came to “clean up” the neighborhoods. They sent fumigating trucks to my neighborhood, spraying toxic gas to kill pests. That act was symbolic. The police began to stage fine-toothed comb operations in the working-class, majority-Black neighborhoods, especially those close to Carnival routes.
Tourists have their picture taken while in cutouts of an Afro-Brazilian drummer, left, and in the traditional dress of an Afro-Brazilian woman, right, in Pelourinho, the historic center of Salvador. There have been conversations regarding how to change policing in the U.S. What can others learn from policing in Brazil?In Brazil, most of the police officers are Black, at least half of them are Black. Yet the diversity of the police force has no bearing on the lethality of their actions.
We absolutely need to defund the police. Yet the local and state police forces are only the most acute node of this conversation—public schools police, social workers police, health care workers police. So, we need to be very careful about not diminishing this whole conversation and making it seem as if defunding the police force alone will solve all of our problems.
Marielle’s death is a signal of the ways that the state identifies Black women as politically dangerous, and I think those two scenarios are closely interlinked. I think Black women are frequently the targets of police violence, we just do not always recognize them as such. If you kill three of a mother’s children in front of her, she is also the target of your violence. That means you identify her as a political subject that threatens who you are and what you seek to do.
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