Boots Riley Says a ‘Gentler Capitalism’ Won’t Save Society

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.BootsRiley— the genius behind 'Sorry to Bother You'— talks about his latest creation, 'I'm a Virgo,' which takes us on a wild ride by exploring Black identity, labor, and the absurdity of capitalism. 📷: Simone Niamani Thompson

’s madcap moviemaking handbook. In a city where Black residents have been steadily priced out, the two of us sit—Riley wearing one of his signature hats, me hatless—swapping stories over lunch as rock music drains from the speakers. This is Oakland, the director’s longtime home, and perhaps our talk wouldn’t feel so surreal if it weren’t the exact kind of thing Riley, impresario of all things Black and bizarre, would write into one of his scripts.

Ext. A Japanese fusion restaurant. Two Black men chow down on fried chicken, pondering their existence.deep, weird, smart conversations with the most important people in our world. As an artist, Riley embodies a kind of allegorical immodesty. How to put it? He thrives in contradiction, happily stews in what he calls the “beautiful clutter” of life. It has become a mirror for his gloriously hyphy cinematic staging: He doesn’t build worlds so much as stretch the one we already inhabit to its fantastical extreme.

As the block hums in and out of consciousness, Riley tells me he does not believe in a “gentler capitalism.” There’s an ease to the day, one that belies the reality of what’s happening across the city: exorbitant rents, a homelessness crisis, bureaucratic decay. Oakland is the place he’s devoted his life and work to, but it doesn’t always feel that way anymore. So we talk about how art can be a means for revolution. In Riley’s world, the only way forward is to disrupt from within.

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