Patrick Carney of the Black Keys has rarely been one to hold his tongue, when it comes to matters of the music business, and rock’s most garrulous gadfly did not disappoint when the duo appea…
Cohort Dan Auerbach also took part in the interview, but Carney did nearly all the talking for the two. The interview slightly predated the’ controversial move to have Ticketmaster shut down entry for resale tickets on the first night of their tour, so that isn’t addressed… but music biz types fascinated by Carney’s candor would surely welcome that and other topics being brought up if the duo ever get around to a Part 2 with Rogan.
He also said that Warner Records told the group when they were up for record of the year for “Lonely Boy” that if they won, a plan was in place to cross the song over to top 40 radio — which he’s thankful didn’t happen. “If we would have won that Grammy, it could have f—ed our whole band up. I’ve seen it happen with lots of bands. You become playschool level. We wouldn’t have changed, but the thing is, you start acquiring a fan base that’s more fickle and maybe more annoying.
He also found out he was limited in his ability to call in favors, even as a longtime SiriusXM host. “Man, I have had a show with that company for five years. I do it for free; I don’t get paid — five years, every month. I had this one artist that I worked with that I was like, ‘I really think you should consider this for something you might put on a playlist.’ This isn’t some payola shit — it’s been five years! They were like, ‘She doesn’t have the social media numbers that we’re looking for.
Asked by Rogan whether musicians can work within a major-label system, Carney said, “If you can integrate with the industry from the outside, it’s the best. We got offers from majors early on,” he recalls. “But we kept getting strung along, mostly because their contract wouldn’t show up — ‘It’ll be there in a week.’ It doesn’t show up. ‘It’ll be there next week.’ It wasn’t there.
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