In the 24 hours since Wednesday’s real-time implosion of the Joe Budden Podcast, during which the host of the popular twice-weekly show fired his longtime cohosts Rory Farrell and Jamil ‘Mal’ Clay …
It feels an apt comparison. Here, you have two similar trios and show formats — conversation led, in Budden’s case, for seven-plus hours over two days a week on audio platforms; in Stern’s COVID-era version, three hours, three times a week on Sirius XM satellite radio. Both Stern and Budden have loyal audiences who consume every minute of talk, and bemoan an episode that comes up short on the count.
Still, the formula can get tired, and it did in the case of the JBP. In recent months you could sense a tension — a contrarian-ness aimed at the person not the argument — and the pod was becoming a painful listen. As it turned out, there was drama behind the scenes, related to money, respect, transparency and friendship — a virtual minefield to navigate while spending upwards of 20 hours together on any given week.
Stern does sometimes snap, especially in response to callers who annoy him, and he’s honest about what makes him tick, thanks to decades of therapy. Budden, too, is surprisingly self-aware and has endorsed therapy, both for himself and with Rory and Mal. Indeed, it was an hours-long gathering of the three, followed by a no-holds-barred discussion on the show about their feelings, which promptedtitled, “Podcast as Therapy Session? How ‘Joe Budden’ Is Helping Destigmatize Mental Health.
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